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  • #61
    Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

    Este es el cartel del evento, solo falta un combate preliminar por decidirse:

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    • #62
      Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

      Muy guapa la preview Nomada.
      El combate que te falta del under card, hace un par de dias que es oficial. El rival de Ryan Thomas es Matt Riddle: ;) UFC & Fightsol

      Saludos

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      • #63
        Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

        Matt Riddle se retiró hace unos dias por una lesión en la rodilla:

        http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...7469&zoneid=13

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        • #64
          Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

          Tienes razon, pero en la web oficial aun no lo han cambiado. El rival parece que sera MATT BROWN

          http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...7483&zoneid=13

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          • #65
            Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

            Joerr con el Lesnar, ¡¡¡que no le caben las guantillas!!!

            En general está haciendo los deberes, mucho cardio, mucho posicionamiento para G&P, boxeo+lowkicks(porque no me atreveria a afirmar que eso que hacia fuese kickboxing ;D), y algo de grappling.

            Respecto a esto último, el grappling, solo entrenaba posicionamientos superiores y G&P, y ni una mala americana. No se, no se. Todos damos por hecho que La Masa irá por arriba y que no tendrá que defender sumisiones, y quizas nos estamos equivocando.

            Creo que, salvando todas las distancias de peso y demás, el combate más parecido a este que ha tenido que afrontar Couture fue el de Mike Van Arsdale(wrestler vs wrestler), y mister estrategias lo enfocó por el lado menos pensado. Pasó del reja-clinch reja-clinch, e intentó compusivamente la Anaconda. Ni guardia, ni grapling pecho con pecho ni nada, los dos puestos en cuatro y el tio venga a tirar Anacondas...hasta que le salió.

            Creo que Randy sabe mejor que nadie contra quien se enfrenta y las limitaciones que tiene, asi que algo tendrá ideado en esa cabeza(que asi está de calvo el tio, ;D ;D)

            PD Con todo esto solo pensaba en voz alta. Mi firma sigue apostada a favor del zampa hamburguesas de Brock(Lo chungo es que me cae maaaal. Menudo prototipo de Gañan yankee)

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            • #66
              Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

              Con Van Ardsdale Randy las paso canutas y fue hasta proyectado, tuvo que sacar su buen grappling para ganar, yo creo que con Lesnar la clave estara en el cardio.

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              • #67
                Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

                fijaros q yo he leido por sherdog q algun iluminado del camp de lesnar dije q "tiene el nivel casi de un cinto morado..."

                joeeeer

                espero q randy sepa manejarse con la espalda en el suelo, pq en algun momento de la pelea ahi va a estar, alguna sumision desde la guardia o buenos raspados le pueden salvar la cara, pq el posicionamiento y gnp del gorila puede ser muy peligroso

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                • #68
                  Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

                  Originalmente escrito por SAKU
                  Tienes razon, pero en la web oficial aun no lo han cambiado. El rival parece que sera MATT BROWN

                  http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...7483&zoneid=13
                  Que raro que no lo hayan cambiado en la web, ni siquiera han quitado a Matt Riddle, no se por qué. De momento dejaré la noticia como está.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

                    Originalmente escrito por budspencer
                    espero q randy sepa manejarse con la espalda en el suelo
                    No, no sabe. Es uno de los tops5 de todos los tiempos pero curiosamente no tiene guardia, es como una tortuga boca arriba. Aunque siendo respetuosos, la verdad es que nunca le ha hecho falta. Como buen greco-roman wrestler, es muy dificil de tirar y casi imposible de girar

                    Que épico me ha quedado...


                    PD ...Aunque podria ser el padre de Brazi ;D ;D

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                    • #70
                      Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

                      jejeje vais a volver a creer en el abuelo ya vereis, y jab va a tener el honor de poner mi record de apuestas en positivo ;D

                      Randy via TKO all the way

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                      • #71
                        Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

                        Oye pero que no penseis que porque entre bien ya no hay forma de parar a Lesnar eh? que cuando hacia lucha no creo que derribara un 100% de las veces, y si es por galones sobre el tapiz, Couture se lo come. Vamos, que indefendibles tampoco son sus derribos (aunque no niego que hay que echarle huevos y corazon para que no te tire el cabron con lo grande que es ;D)

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                        • #72
                          Re: Couture Vs Lesnar para UFC 91!!!

                          Originalmente escrito por teseo
                          jejeje vais a volver a creer en el abuelo ya vereis, y jab va a tener el honor de poner mi record de apuestas en positivo ;D

                          Randy via TKO all the way
                          Si,si. Ya veremos vaquero... 8)


                          PD Y la salida de Lesnar tambien tiene Contras. Hasta los mayores toros se pueden recibir a "puertagayola".

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                          • #73
                            Re: UFC 91 15/11 : Couture Vs Lesnar !!!

                            Card Oficial:

                            1. Randy Couture Vs. Brock Lesnar
                            2. Kenny Florian Vs. Joe Stevenson
                            3. Gabriel Gonzaga Vs. Josh Hendricks
                            4. Nate Quarry Vs. Demian Maia
                            5. Dustin Hazelett Vs. Tamdan McCrory
                            6. Jorge Gurgel Vs. Aaron Riley
                            7. Jeremy Stephens Vs. Rafael dos Anjos
                            8. Alvin Robinson Vs. Mark Bocek
                            9. Matt Brown Vs. Ryan Thomas
                            To Perita Style

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                            • #74
                              Re: UFC 91 15/11 : Couture Vs Lesnar !!!

                              RECORDAOS UNA COSA, ESTE SABADO ES EL 15 ANIVERSARIO DE UFC...

                              magnifico reportaje en sherdog

                              A Brief Reflection on 15 Years of the UFC


                              Hello ladies and gentlemen. You are about to see something you have never seen before ... the Ultimate Fighting Challenge


                              "Hello ladies and gentlemen. You are about to see something you have never seen before ... the Ultimate Fighting Challenge."

                              Uttered 15 years ago to this day, the introduction for the promotion that would bring mixed martial arts to the masses wasn't even competent, let alone stirring. More like taking forceps to the eyeball during delivery.

                              "Hello, I'm Bill Wallace, and welcome to McNichols Ar ... "

                              The birth moment went from awkwardly inept to outright ignominious as the man dubbed "Superfoot" quite literally belched through the foreword to fighting history. This was not "Call me Ishmael." More like dropping the newborn skull-first on the floor.

                              A difficult delivery, fortunately, didn't have any bearing on the spectacle of the evening's proceedings. With a thunderous kick to the face in less than 30 seconds, Gerard Gordeau liberated the teeth of hapless sumo Teila Tuli, freeing them to explore the thin Denver air. And that was just a prelude to the skinny Brazilian fellow in his pajamas.

                              Yes, every ardent MMA fan, whether they were watching live on pay-per-view from day one thanks to a Black Belt magazine subscription or whether they became smitten with the sport one Saturday night on Spike TV, can appreciate the milestone, the magic and the mockability of the first Ultimate Fighting Championship. By now, it is nothing short of cultural fact that Royce Gracie revolutionized fightsport with his early UFC dominance and fully held up his end of the bargain to his big brother Rorion in what began as an infomercial for Gracie jiu-jitsu. Today, the magnitude of that moment is a mandate to the point where it becomes almost drained and dull.

                              The real sense of wonder and amazement, as we continue to bear witness, is how extraordinarily far the UFC, and by some extension MMA, has come in the span of 15 years.

                              Today, the very spot where the iconic Octagon stood on Nov. 12, 1993, is much different. Denver's McNichols Arena has long since been razed, and the Octagon's figurative footprint now rests in the middle of a parking lot outside Invesco Field. Meanwhile, the UFC has become a cultural staple, a multimillion-dollar company and, for better or worse, virtually synonymous with the entire sport of MMA.


                              Whether or not it is because I am a bandwagon bastard, or simply the fact I was six at the time (or both), I did not join the approximately 99.9952 percent of MMA fans who boldly claim to have watched the first UFC live on pay-per-view. My first genuine exposure to the sport came on a blustery December day in 1997. I was in a local convenience store -- strangely called Michael's Market, despite being run by an Iranian named Bill who only in my maturity did I realize was a dead ringer for Chemical Ali -- and was trying to be as 007 as possible in sneaking glances around the ever-adversarial shower curtain that acted as a force field for the adult entertainment section.

                              As luck, and perhaps fate, would have it, the sports-related videos happened to be an unexpected neighbor with the XXX genre, and my eye was caught by a host of UFC box covers. I decided to be an intrepid renter rather than a futile porno peeker, and I grabbed copies of UFC 6 and 7. It was truly a more beautiful time, before Blockbuster devoured the rental universe, when a precocious 10-year-old could acquire Tank Abbott's exploits without any form of scrutiny or certification.

                              The events were nothing short of a great afternoon killer. Between Oleg Taktarov's commingling of gore and science and Marco Ruas' marriage of surgery and hardwood logging, I thought that this whole ultimate fighting thing was "cool." Yet, for whatever inexplicable reason, not cool enough to launch myself into full-blown fandom.

                              Mania for MMA would not strike me until roughly two years later. Something, but seemingly nothing in particular, triggered my memories of the UFC videos years earlier and inspired me to take to the search engines in those days before Google's effective searching stranglehold. I was extremely dismayed to find out that the sport had been shoved into the shadows by John McCain's "human cockfighting" rhetoric and ties to Budweiser, still one of boxing's major sponsors at the time. Fortunately, trawling forums and newsgroups did allow me to get my hands on pirated copies of scores of MMA events.

                              In hindsight, the quality of the rips was so poor that I'm amazed I bothered watching. But I did. As I watched Carlos Newton and Dan Henderson get after it, with a bitrate so paltry the picture looked as though it was comprised of hundreds of scuttling roaches on the screen, I got the feeling this NHB stuff may be worth revisiting. A few weeks later, when I finally got to see the much-hyped, much-ballyhooed Frank Shamrock-Tito Ortiz bout, that feeling was reaffirmed.

                              2001 had scarcely begun when news broke that Bob Meyrowitz and Semaphore Entertainment Group had sold all UFC interest to Las Vegas upstart company Zuffa. Such a sale would usually be met with suspicion, trepidation, fear. To most fans dying for legitimacy, Zuffa was the ultimate esperanza.

                              Despite what Zuffa's revisionist history will tell you, it was SEG who brought the era of regulation and Unified Rules to the UFC. Over the last six years of SEG's ownership, it was probably their only intelligent contribution to the sport and the UFC product. However, with the Fertitta brothers' casino industry wealth, Zuffa represented the chance to actually pave a road to prominence that an impoverished SEG could not.

                              In less than six months, Zuffa put on three strong cards in their first three showings, including one of the promotion's unquestionable classics in UFC 31, where we saw a war between Couture and Rizzo, an upset with Newton-Miletich, the coming-out party of Chuck Liddell, the spinning backfist of Shonie Carter and where we met Baby Jay Penn. The critical if not financial success of these first three cards for Zuffa paved the way for what was supposed to be the UFC's breakthrough moment.

                              There was sense of populist victory that July when Nevada voted to regulate the sport of MMA. While Lorenzo Fertitta was criticized at the time for turning down MMA in Nevada (depending on which version of the truth you subscribe to), and while the contemporary eye may see him as an opportunist, the step forward was enormous enough to quash the misgivings. Now the UFC would head to America's fight capital, where MMA belonged, and would be making its long awaited return to pay-per-view with a hotly anticipated title tripleheader. What would go wrong?

                              Well, nearly everything, quite like the capital G decided to make the UFC his personal Job. First, the tragedy of 9/11 postponed the boxing world's big ticket and the undisputed middleweight title clash between Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad was scheduled for the same weekend as UFC 33. Then, just over a week away from fight night, headliner Vitor Belfort inexplicably put his arm through a pane of glass, forcing the far less appealing Vladimir Matyushenko into action against Tito Ortiz. And all of that was before the actual, real catastrophe.


                              The ecstasy of the UFC back on pay-per-view quickly died. UFC 33's main card dragged for ages with five consecutive decisions, three of them 25-minute title fights. Today's fans are quick to hack a card to bits if one main card fight is a 15-minute snoozer. Multiply this agony tenfold. While some part of you just wanted the card to finally end, no one really meant it in the fashion that it happened. Because of the decision-fest that had ensued, the pay-per-view unceremoniously ended for many viewers in the middle of the main event.

                              Dana White still says the specter of UFC 33 gnaws at him, and I can't say I'm unsympathetic. For me, it felt like the UFC led MMA to a fourth-quarter comeback, and clanked iron with what would've been the game-winning three. Sure, there's always next season, but who knows if you get back to the dance?


                              Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock didn't kick in the door with UFC 40, but they at least let the UFC get their foot in there.

                              Champions like Jens Pulver and Murilo Bustamante came and went. The kakutogi boom in Japan accelerated and intensified the UFC vs. Pride battle between fans that would govern the sport's discourse for the next five years. Ortiz-Shamrock was the UFC's only real chance at making a statement, pitting their only legitimate star against the man who, despite spending his more recent days as a pro wrestler, was still largely synonymous with "ultimate fighting."

                              With the help of Fox Sports Net, Zuffa got its first taste of building a mega fight in the media, an art they've since nearly perfected. The storyline was dramatic without being cartoonish, over the top without being alienating. More importantly, the fight was seen as legitimate. Sportsbooks generally had Ortiz as no larger than a -180 favorite.

                              While Nov. 22, 2002 gave us a quality event, it didn't give us a competitive main event, as Ortiz bashed Shamrock for 15 minutes en route to a merciful corner stoppage. The $1.5 million gate and 150,000 pay-per-view buys were a major success and easily the greatest moment for Zuffa at the time.

                              But in the aftermath of UFC 40, there was a sense of pessimism. The event had actually made money, netted MMA some new fans and added "the living death" to the sport's lexicon, but what came next? The public was there for the taking if the UFC could give them a reason to care.

                              To say "things changed" with the advent of

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                              • #75
                                Re: UFC 91 15/11 : Couture Vs Lesnar !!!

                                Thanks Bud, seguroq ue el tito Dana hace algun anuncio especial para conmemorarlo ::)

                                Por cierto, ese Alvin Robinson vs. Mark Bocek va a estar muy muy bonito

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